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Welcome to 1978 / The Martin Chronicles Episode I : Verboden
« on: January 07, 2014, 04:59:29 PM »
So I've been rifling through my cd collection to knock the dust off some albums I have not listened to in the last 20 yrs,  maybe get rid of trash and rediscover some lost gems I have forgotten about... and there they were... the "Martin era" Sabbath discs, those dirty little secrets that any self respecting old school Sabbath fan will ridicule but not many admit to owning. I can honestly say that it has been 20 yrs since I've actually sat down and really listened to any of these albums in their entirety.

     There it was my pristine original pressing {on CD} of Forbidden, an album I have not listened to since 1995. In this circle we all know the Martin era and this particular album was ridiculed and beat to a bloody pulp over and over again  within inches of it's life. Now nearly 20 yrs later, with lessons learned, wounds healed and the scars faded a bit.... I throw Forbidden into the player to reacquaint myself with this oft maligned, and according to the majority of Sabbath fans, the worst of the Martin era albums.

     I was suckered into buying this album back in the day, because in '94 they released Cross Purposes, IMO the most solid of the Martin era albums. Geezer being back in the band make a difference, sure, over all CP was decent album. So, at the time, not being on the "Internets" or Sabbath getting much press, I assumed the CP line up recorded this album.... ya we know they didn't.

     I Have to say that listening to this with a somewhat clean palate I was pleasantly surprised by this album, don't get me wrong, there are plenty of flaws on this thing that keep it on the bottom of the list of sabbath albums{more on that later.} but as a self proclaimed Iommi fan boy there are some really good riffs and solos on this album that I had forgotten about. This album had the potential to be so much better than it it is. 

     None of the material on this album{obviously} is gonna make you forget the classics, but Iommi is rock solid in some of his riff ideas, Guilty as Hell,Shake off the Chains,,Cant get close, Get a grip,Rusty Angels even Forbidden are all really good Riffs...  not to mention the Solo he rips off in Sick and Tired is just fucking mind blowing!!! One can only fantasize, if that Leather lunged Midget RJD were at the mic some of this material would have been brought up a couple of notches.

     Now that the very short list of high points for this album are done lets move on to the low points.  First and foremost Illusion of Power, this is just a horrible abomination of a song, a bad idea from the start  and whoever talked Iommi into this should be tied to the yardarm shot in the knees and be forced to listen to Motley Crue's Home sweet Home over and over till they have blood flowing from their ears and beg to be killed. Whoever put the track order together should've left this off or at the very least placed it as the last track.For me, this just puts such a bad taste in your mouth as the opener that it taints the rest of the album. Martin's pseudo rap style delivery and Ice T's "evil" rap mix like oil and water against a somewhat decent heavy riff.

     The production and mixing on this album are horrible!!!and sucks what life this album may have had out of it, Ernie C  must have a "tin ear". The drums have no "oomph" and sounds like Cozy is beating on cardboard boxes, the bass is so buried in the mix you wonder if there is a bass player at times, and if they put one more notch of compression on Iomm's guitars this CD just might explode in my player. This is painfully obvious on some of the solos as Iommi's guitar sounds like it's just having the life choked out it. 

     The other problem is it has Tony Martin on it, it's not that he's a bad singer it's just that he is just so freakin vanilla sounding, still after all these years, on these albums he sounds like the most generic version of Dio you could ever find and even that analogy is being a bit kind. I chock it up to "JLT syndrome" that befell Rainbow a decade earlier. It's not that these guys are bad singers just that their voices bring nothing to the songs. In some cases even hurt some good riffs with their average delivery, this not to say that both of these guys didn't have their moments with there respective bands, but overall there body of work is fairly forgettable.

    I guess in the end Forbidden is not as bad of an album as I remember it, eliminate IOP from it and overall it's decent. I guess the rub is that there was the potential for this album to be so much better than it is, I've read that this album was supposed to be recorded with the line up of Butler,Ward,Iommi and Martin one wonders what the end result of that would've been, at it's core Forbidden has some real good ideas to build off of but in the end it falls flat with poor execution. I also wondered why Iommi was so hung up on Martin and his generic Dio-esque style,I get in the late '80s that was the "style", I always wondered why he never tried to go with a Ozzy-esque type singer, lord knows in the early '90's that style of singer, from all the grunge bands, was in en vogue at the time. 

     Well the time has come to re-aquatint myself with another selection from this era and see if my mindset has changed about it  20 or so years later.       

this is how I always pictured the next ARRMO get together to be..... except CLS would be in full King D make up and bring his collection of puppets

Welcome to 1978 / Re: ARMO
« on: September 13, 2013, 04:13:21 PM »
I guess it time to have the "Paul Lynde" talk with her now......

Welcome to 1978 / Black Sabbath live
« on: August 27, 2013, 06:46:41 PM »
Saw Sabbath last night, the band was tight, Ozzy overall was fairly decent, though there were many moments his voice failed him. If you have any reservations about seeing the tour.... go!!!! I really wasn't planning too, but glad I did, this night the sound was great, and the band was HEAVY!!! the drummer was great he was playing Ward's licks note for note or beat for beat , i was impressed as he was nailing the Vol 4  drum lines just like the album.{ Under the Sun was melting my face off it was so fuckin heavy!!} rippin version of Rat Salad, and nice extended version of Bassicaly  before busting into NIB, I wish Geezer would've jam just a bit longer.The version of Dirty Women was great as they played it in a lower tuning and was heavy as hell!!! Both Geezer and Iommi are just fucking incredible live, and it was nice to see that after 40 yrs these guys are out there showing the younger bands this is how it's done.No band can touch them live for heavy-ness, If  this is there last time touring it was well worth the ticket price!!

Welcome to 1978 / Re: TAP
« on: August 15, 2013, 08:54:01 PM »
was just wonderin  the same thing, after hookin up with Capn Tripps , I think he may wanted to re-live the famous 35 sabbatical, but he just up and disappeared the only clue, from his wife who i'm friends with on FB, is that he has left the FB room.  Personally I always thought TAP and Mortiis were one in the same I mean I never saw them together at the same time hows that for a non sequitur....

Welcome to 1978 / Took GFT to lunch........
« on: August 10, 2013, 07:13:13 PM »
he insisted that we eat at Ace Hardware....... 

Welcome to 1978 / Re: Steamroller
« on: August 10, 2013, 04:37:06 PM »
 Thanx GFT!!!   well we were trying to get the "Friendo" guy from No Country for old men, as for Frosty Odin we took the lesson learned, the tears cried, unsavory characters "terminated"  and sat down with a nice glass of hot camomile tea and cucumber sandwiches, after consulting with all the mighty Norse gods and even a few Indian deities and 10 straight days in the sweat lodge we emerged with a vision that no mere mortal man could deny.......... yes the spirit of Frosty Odin haunts every note we play!!!   

Welcome to 1978 / Re: ARRMOFFL
« on: August 10, 2013, 04:29:25 PM »
You are all going to get crushed...... as the Psyconauts have returned determined to make Rob taste 2nd place this year!!!!!!!

Welcome to 1978 / Steamroller
« on: July 25, 2013, 09:04:56 PM »
my buddy and I are shaking off the dust and putting a new project together, for the benefit of the gang not on facebook , here's the first song we finished and made a video for... hope you enjoy

Welcome to 1978 / ...........Oral!
« on: July 03, 2013, 02:14:49 PM »
These are from a book called Disorder in the Courts and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and published by court reporters that had the torment of staying calm while the exchanges were taking place.

ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
WITNESS: He said, 'Where am I, Cathy?'
ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
WITNESS: My name is Susan!
ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?
WITNESS: No, I just lie there.
ATTORNEY: What is your date of birth?
WITNESS: July 18th.
ATTORNEY: What year?
WITNESS: Every year.
ATTORNEY: How old is your son, the one living with you?
WITNESS: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which.
ATTORNEY: How long has he lived with you?
WITNESS: Forty-five years.
ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget..
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the 20-year-old, how old is he?
WITNESS: He's 20, much like your IQ.
ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Are you shitting me?
ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Getting laid

ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death..
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
WITNESS: Take a guess.

ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I'm going with male.
ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
WITNESS: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
WITNESS: Oral...
ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished.
ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question?

And last:

ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.

Welcome to 1978 / Re: Guess we ...
« on: July 03, 2013, 02:14:12 PM »
every guy needs a hobby to blow off some steam...

Welcome to 1978 / Re: Nazareth Top Ten
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:43:14 PM »

Welcome to 1978 / Re: Gilmour '78 Promo Vids
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:25:14 PM »
a great album, I really like the On an Island album he put out a few years ago, great early floyd vibe

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